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| Liz and Philip Large |
A CATALOGUE of errors at Swindon's hospital prompted a woman to abduct her husband.
Liz Large, of Parsons Way, Wootton Bassett, was left less than impressed with treatment dished out to her husband Philip at the Great Western Hospital.
So she plucked him to the safety of the family home where he is now recovering - against medical advice.
"I'm not a nurse, but I know what's right," said Liz. "I know what's right for me and I expect to be treated according to my brain power."
Philip, 46, suffered a stroke seven months ago and only recently returned to work at a Swindon engineering company.
But nearly four weeks ago her husband felt unwell and so colleagues took him to Great Western Hospital where he suffered four epileptic fits.
Mrs Large feels the hospital staff were unhelpful and kept her in the dark.
When her husband's blood pressure started to rise Mrs Large became concerned because she knew it could lead to another stroke.
"You think of the worst case scenario," said Mrs Large.
"But unless I actually stood there and shouted and cried and screamed at them, they just said We know best.' But they do not I'm afraid."
Mrs Large reached the end of her tether when she rang her husband only to find his epilepsy medication was three hours overdue.
When she questioned this, she was told the nurses could not find his medication chart because it was locked in an office - so he could not be treated.
Mrs Large decided to bring her husband home and care for him herself.
She also felt the conditions that her husband was subjected to were unacceptable.
She says he was constantly moved around and put in an area where too many beds were crammed in.
A spokesman for Great Western Hospital, said: "We cannot discuss individual cases down to the rules on confidentiality.
"We are sorry that Mrs Large is unhappy with the care her husband received. We are aware of her concerns and are investigating them at the moment."
He said there were occasions when the hospital had to care for patients in extra beds if it was very busy.
This was due to the hospital's policy of not turning patients away, but the priority was still to ensure every patient received the care and medical attention they needed.
11:17am Thursday 20th March 2008
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CommentPosted by: Peeved, Swindon on 1:23pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Disgusting. Yet another example of poor care and treatment at GWH. Wasn't it only last week that Micheal Wills MP was boasting about what a wonderful job Labour had done in Swindon to provide us with
this "fantastic" facility. SHAME!
Disgusting. Yet another example of poor care and treatment at GWH. Wasn't it only last week that Micheal Wills MP was boasting about what a wonderful job Labour had done in Swindon to provide us with
this "fantastic" facility. SHAME!
Posted by: Cwis, Swindon on 1:46pm Thu 20 Mar 08
It seems to be pretty random in terms of whether you'll get good service at GWH. I've never been admitted there myself but I've heard very mixed opinions about it. Some saying they have had a great service there and the staff were really nice...
And then others giving a story which makes the GWH staff out to be 'The Dark Side'.
How someone (especially trained staff) can give an epidural in an arm instead of the spinal area is beyond me.
It seems GWH get away with murder. Literally.
It seems to be pretty random in terms of whether you'll get good service at GWH. I've never been admitted there myself but I've heard very mixed opinions about it. Some saying they have had a great service there and the staff were really nice...
And then others giving a story which makes the GWH staff out to be 'The Dark Side'.
How someone (especially trained staff) can give an epidural in an arm instead of the spinal area is beyond me.
It seems GWH get away with murder. Literally.
Posted by: CK, Swindon on 4:39pm Thu 20 Mar 08
I spent one night in that place. I had one doctor who was convinced I had a stomach ulcer or something like that, who wanted to put a camera down to investigate. I told him no way as I've never been bothered with any stomach complaint. He didn't want to listen and was convinced he was right. I knew he was way off in his "diagnosis". It turned out I had pneumonia. I decided I was risking my life staying there and discharged myself, also against advice. My reasoning was that if I was going to kick the bucket, I'd be as well doing it at home!!! I'm still here to tell the tale and that was nearly 5 years ago.
My husband also discharged himself from the cardiac ward after one of the consultants there wanted to do a potentially life-threatening procedure - without even so much as reading my husband's notes and case history. My husband refused this procedure.
This consultant's parting words to my husband were "You'll drop dead before the end of the month". I won't say what my husband's reply was as it would be unprintable. Suffice to say he told the consultant to get lost.
Four years on and he's still going strong, works full-time in a demanding job - and takes no medication whatsoever.
No. Medical staff don't always know what's best despite their "we know it all and like playing God" attitude.
Good for Mrs Large. I hope her husband makes a full recovery and I'm sure he's in very good hands now.
I spent one night in that place. I had one doctor who was convinced I had a stomach ulcer or something like that, who wanted to put a camera down to investigate. I told him no way as I've never been bothered with any stomach complaint. He didn't want to listen and was convinced he was right. I knew he was way off in his "diagnosis". It turned out I had pneumonia. I decided I was risking my life staying there and discharged myself, also against advice. My reasoning was that if I was going to kick the bucket, I'd be as well doing it at home!!! I'm still here to tell the tale and that was nearly 5 years ago.
My husband also discharged himself from the cardiac ward after one of the consultants there wanted to do a potentially life-threatening procedure - without even so much as reading my husband's notes and case history. My husband refused this procedure.
This consultant's parting words to my husband were "You'll drop dead before the end of the month". I won't say what my husband's reply was as it would be unprintable. Suffice to say he told the consultant to get lost.
Four years on and he's still going strong, works full-time in a demanding job - and takes no medication whatsoever.
No. Medical staff don't always know what's best despite their "we know it all and like playing God" attitude.
Good for Mrs Large. I hope her husband makes a full recovery and I'm sure he's in very good hands now.
Posted by: BWB, SWINDON on 5:07pm Thu 20 Mar 08
My wife was admitted to GWH with pnumonia.
Apart from laying In her own filth for half an hour,because no one answered her buzzer.
And despite being given a Tracheomy tube,she was served Mash and mince for dinner.
The sign on her bed stated NIL BY MOUTH.
They took It away,and never came back.
They also lost her medication notes.
[bold]GWH IS a Hospital to be avoided If possible[/bold] .
My wife was admitted to GWH with pnumonia.
Apart from laying In her own filth for half an hour,because no one answered her buzzer.
And despite being given a Tracheomy tube,she was served Mash and mince for dinner.
The sign on her bed stated NIL BY MOUTH.
They took It away,and never came back.
They also lost her medication notes.
GWH IS a Hospital to be avoided If possible .
Posted by: shazzy, swindon on 7:54pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Whist it's upsetting to hear of patients that have eventful stays at the GWH, we should all praise the Staff who work long shifts, sometimes without breaks. They dedicate themselfs to helping others with little gratitude for their efforts in a somewhat very pressured enviroment.
Whist it's upsetting to hear of patients that have eventful stays at the GWH, we should all praise the Staff who work long shifts, sometimes without breaks. They dedicate themselfs to helping others with little gratitude for their efforts in a somewhat very pressured enviroment.
Posted by: swindon1, swindon on 8:02pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Why does nobody ever comment on the good work that happens in GWH, its only ever the negative things that ever get reported. Speaking as somebody who worked there for a year, and has a partner who still works there, I feel I have to stand up for the staff. The Swindon public is always the first to criticise, but what they never seem to understand is the majority of wards are ran understaffed, and this is due to the management system of the hospital, with often 1 trained nurse expected to look after and provide a decent quality of care to 12-15 patients, often with only a few HCA's to assist. Not forgetting that this doesn't just involve handing out a few pills, as most people seem to believe, but pre-op and post-op checks, plannning discharges, organising drugs, dressings, care plans, dealing with doctors and relatives, plus the ton of paperwork that they are also expected to complete during their shifts. SO next time you are either in hospital as a patient or visiting a relative, just remember that the nursing staff are doing their absolute best to care for not just you or your relatives, but also a number of other people who at that one particular moment, may just have a greater need that is more important.
Why does nobody ever comment on the good work that happens in GWH, its only ever the negative things that ever get reported. Speaking as somebody who worked there for a year, and has a partner who still works there, I feel I have to stand up for the staff. The Swindon public is always the first to criticise, but what they never seem to understand is the majority of wards are ran understaffed, and this is due to the management system of the hospital, with often 1 trained nurse expected to look after and provide a decent quality of care to 12-15 patients, often with only a few HCA's to assist. Not forgetting that this doesn't just involve handing out a few pills, as most people seem to believe, but pre-op and post-op checks, plannning discharges, organising drugs, dressings, care plans, dealing with doctors and relatives, plus the ton of paperwork that they are also expected to complete during their shifts. SO next time you are either in hospital as a patient or visiting a relative, just remember that the nursing staff are doing their absolute best to care for not just you or your relatives, but also a number of other people who at that one particular moment, may just have a greater need that is more important.
Posted by: lpratley, Swindon on 8:11pm Thu 20 Mar 08
I would like to add that I did not put my husband at any risk as his anti convulsant medication was on the ward ready for him to take away - I took it away. The adver have done a wonderful story but this is only PART of the complaint, the list is almost endless from that described to assault and me actually managing to take his notes home from an open ward desk!!!
I would like to add that I did not put my husband at any risk as his anti convulsant medication was on the ward ready for him to take away - I took it away. The adver have done a wonderful story but this is only PART of the complaint, the list is almost endless from that described to assault and me actually managing to take his notes home from an open ward desk!!!
Posted by: sashstaff, Swindon on 8:33pm Thu 20 Mar 08
I have been admitted to GWH a few times and have never had any problems, in fact, I have nothing but praise.
As has been said, doctors and nurses do there best often in difficult circumstances, sometimes things don't go to plan, that's life. I would rather trust a doctor, who has trained for years, than take a guess at what was wrong myself and hope for the best.
We should all be grateful that we have access to free healthcare at all, millions of people do not.
I have been admitted to GWH a few times and have never had any problems, in fact, I have nothing but praise.
As has been said, doctors and nurses do there best often in difficult circumstances, sometimes things don't go to plan, that's life. I would rather trust a doctor, who has trained for years, than take a guess at what was wrong myself and hope for the best.
We should all be grateful that we have access to free healthcare at all, millions of people do not.
Posted by: lpratley, Swindon on 8:54pm Thu 20 Mar 08
This is my husband we are talking about. I work in a nursing home - it does not stink - patients are not left in urine/stool soaked beds. We have two trained nurses plus care assistants to 35 residents in the mornings and one nurse plus carers in the afternoons. All our residents are fed and watered properly. The home DOES NOT smell. I would rather my husband be treated by a vet. Unless more people are prepared to say what they think things will never improve. Some people thing doctors are "god" and and can do no wrong. Please leave your comments on this site and I will take up matters on your behalf if you want. I will not be ignored. Mrs Liz Large
This is my husband we are talking about. I work in a nursing home - it does not stink - patients are not left in urine/stool soaked beds. We have two trained nurses plus care assistants to 35 residents in the mornings and one nurse plus carers in the afternoons. All our residents are fed and watered properly. The home DOES NOT smell. I would rather my husband be treated by a vet. Unless more people are prepared to say what they think things will never improve. Some people thing doctors are "god" and and can do no wrong. Please leave your comments on this site and I will take up matters on your behalf if you want. I will not be ignored. Mrs Liz Large
Posted by: Outsider, Swindon on 9:05pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Cwis[/bold] wrote:
It seems to be pretty random in terms of whether you'll get good service at GWH. I've never been admitted there myself but I've heard very mixed opinions about it. Some saying they have had a great service there and the staff were really nice... And then others giving a story which makes the GWH staff out to be 'The Dark Side'. How someone (especially trained staff) can give an epidural in an arm instead of the spinal area is beyond me. It seems GWH get away with murder. Literally.[/quote] Cwis - The Maternity Unit (though as with anything there will always be mixed experiences) appears to have improved since that ghastly event a few years ago, that could well have been avoided.
Many mothers who gave birth recently can not fault the staff and the care they received. Recently I was in there and the levels of hygiene I witnessed were very high. It's appalling to hear that other Depts lack the same approach, and sadly it's not just the hospital that is guilty of such actions a retired friend of mine found his wife in a Swindon Nursing home where standards of care were just as shocking.
Cwis wrote:
It seems to be pretty random in terms of whether you'll get good service at GWH. I've never been admitted there myself but I've heard very mixed opinions about it. Some saying they have had a great service there and the staff were really nice... And then others giving a story which makes the GWH staff out to be 'The Dark Side'. How someone (especially trained staff) can give an epidural in an arm instead of the spinal area is beyond me. It seems GWH get away with murder. Literally.
Cwis - The Maternity Unit (though as with anything there will always be mixed experiences) appears to have improved since that ghastly event a few years ago, that could well have been avoided.
Many mothers who gave birth recently can not fault the staff and the care they received. Recently I was in there and the levels of hygiene I witnessed were very high. It's appalling to hear that other Depts lack the same approach, and sadly it's not just the hospital that is guilty of such actions a retired friend of mine found his wife in a Swindon Nursing home where standards of care were just as shocking.
Posted by: mum of three, Swindon on 9:38pm Thu 20 Mar 08
It is an unfair comparission between a hospital and a nursing home. Having worked in both enviroments,i feel i am able to comment on both.In a nursing home,you do not have the pressures of pre-op/post op patients,ward rounds,doctors,physi
os,occupational therapists,all constantly chasing y ou reference your patients. You dont have the paperwork in a nursing home like on a busy ward or the same pressures when it comes to things like training. On the wards,we have morphine pumps,drips,and all manner of medical equipment that nursing homes do not have. It is ridiculous to compare a hospital to a nursing home because they are two completely seperate enviroments. That said,nobody is perfect and nursing staff are not super human. We prioritise our patients,which is not always popular with the patients and/or their relatives,but that is the only way to work effectively in a clinical enviroment. No hospital is perfect,and i am sure that people would pick faults at all hospitals,but we work in the hospital because it is the career we have chosen. Nursing staff do the job because they genuinely want to help people. Lets face it,if it was for the money then we wouldn't be there because we could earn more working nights in Tesco!!!! Don't forget about all the good work we do....everyone is very quick to critise...one bad incident does not make it a bad hospital!
It is an unfair comparission between a hospital and a nursing home. Having worked in both enviroments,i feel i am able to comment on both.In a nursing home,you do not have the pressures of pre-op/post op patients,ward rounds,doctors,physi
os,occupational therapists,all constantly chasing y ou reference your patients. You dont have the paperwork in a nursing home like on a busy ward or the same pressures when it comes to things like training. On the wards,we have morphine pumps,drips,and all manner of medical equipment that nursing homes do not have. It is ridiculous to compare a hospital to a nursing home because they are two completely seperate enviroments. That said,nobody is perfect and nursing staff are not super human. We prioritise our patients,which is not always popular with the patients and/or their relatives,but that is the only way to work effectively in a clinical enviroment. No hospital is perfect,and i am sure that people would pick faults at all hospitals,but we work in the hospital because it is the career we have chosen. Nursing staff do the job because they genuinely want to help people. Lets face it,if it was for the money then we wouldn't be there because we could earn more working nights in Tesco!!!! Don't forget about all the good work we do....everyone is very quick to critise...one bad incident does not make it a bad hospital!
Posted by: madamspud169, Kempsford, Swindon on 9:44pm Thu 20 Mar 08
I now refuse to go to the GWH I feel safer at home. The last time I was in I was unconscious for 4 days yet the hospital staff were arranging transport to get me home on day 1. I was UNCONSCIOUS!
I was admitted another time at 10am to the ward yet had not been offered anything to eat or drink till the next morning. I'm diabetic.
So now I wont go there, I don't think it's safe for anyone.
Even the staff either bring their own food or get take out delivered rather than eating their inedible food on offer.
I now refuse to go to the GWH I feel safer at home. The last time I was in I was unconscious for 4 days yet the hospital staff were arranging transport to get me home on day 1. I was UNCONSCIOUS!
I was admitted another time at 10am to the ward yet had not been offered anything to eat or drink till the next morning. I'm diabetic.
So now I wont go there, I don't think it's safe for anyone.
Even the staff either bring their own food or get take out delivered rather than eating their inedible food on offer.
Posted by: mum of three, Swindon on 9:47pm Thu 20 Mar 08
That might have something to do with the fact that we are not allowed to eat the food on offer as it is a sackable offence to eat the food served to patients on the wards!!!!!
That might have something to do with the fact that we are not allowed to eat the food on offer as it is a sackable offence to eat the food served to patients on the wards!!!!!
Posted by: maddag, swindon on 9:49pm Thu 20 Mar 08
all the moaning minnies who complain are nothing short of ungrateful ***oles the one to complain about is this crap Goverment ,we need more like maggie Thatcher than the poltically correct morons who have run the country for the last 10 or so years and need kicking into touch .Nothing will change in our hospitals whilst these morons are in charge
all the moaning minnies who complain are nothing short of ungrateful ***oles the one to complain about is this crap Goverment ,we need more like maggie Thatcher than the poltically correct morons who have run the country for the last 10 or so years and need kicking into touch .Nothing will change in our hospitals whilst these morons are in charge
Posted by: mum of three, Swindon on 10:08pm Thu 20 Mar 08
I did a ten hour shift today on a very busy surgical ward and i did a great job,i am certain that no patients could look back and say that they did not recieve wonderful care. That is why it is so hard to read that people ar unhappy with care delivered at [bold]any [/bold] hospital,because we do our best.
I did a ten hour shift today on a very busy surgical ward and i did a great job,i am certain that no patients could look back and say that they did not recieve wonderful care. That is why it is so hard to read that people ar unhappy with care delivered at
any hospital,because we do our best.
Posted by: BWB, SWINDON on 11:25pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]mum of three[/bold] wrote:
I did a ten hour shift today on a very busy surgical ward and i did a great job,i am certain that no patients could look back and say that they did not recieve wonderful care. That is why it is so hard to read that people ar unhappy with care delivered at [bold]any [/bold] hospital,because we do our best.[/quote] Unless we make complaints,you will continue to work ten hours a day.
And like my wife they will continue to lay in their own filth for too long.
And have their medical records lost.
And be given food,when It says NIL BY MOUTH.
A wrong can not be made wright by excuses
GWH IS too top heavy,
with high paid pen pushers.
GWH needs more fully trained nurses,and doctors And I dont mean AGENCY workers.
I still say GWH Is the PITS,and you stand more chance of servival by self medication at home.
Or even a medical tent In Bagdad.
GOOD NIGHT.
mum of three wrote:
I did a ten hour shift today on a very busy surgical ward and i did a great job,i am certain that no patients could look back and say that they did not recieve wonderful care. That is why it is so hard to read that people ar unhappy with care delivered at any hospital,because we do our best.
Unless we make complaints,you will continue to work ten hours a day.
And like my wife they will continue to lay in their own filth for too long.
And have their medical records lost.
And be given food,when It says NIL BY MOUTH.
A wrong can not be made wright by excuses
GWH IS too top heavy,
with high paid pen pushers.
GWH needs more fully trained nurses,and doctors And I dont mean AGENCY workers.
I still say GWH Is the PITS,and you stand more chance of servival by self medication at home.
Or even a medical tent In Bagdad.
GOOD NIGHT.
Posted by: Hazzard, NHS on 11:37pm Thu 20 Mar 08
Ummm as usual there will be 2 sides to this story, but staff being bound by confidentiality clauses will not be allowed to offer their side thereby making it very easy for difficult, ungrateful people desperate to get their faces in the local rag to exagerate.
Ummm as usual there will be 2 sides to this story, but staff being bound by confidentiality clauses will not be allowed to offer their side thereby making it very easy for difficult, ungrateful people desperate to get their faces in the local rag to exagerate.
Posted by: Hazzard, NHS on 11:41pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]BWB[/bold] wrote:
[quote][bold]mum of three[/bold] wrote: I did a ten hour shift today on a very busy surgical ward and i did a great job,i am certain that no patients could look back and say that they did not recieve wonderful care. That is why it is so hard to read that people ar unhappy with care delivered at [bold]any [/bold] hospital,because we do our best.[/quote] Unless we make complaints,you will continue to work ten hours a day. And like my wife they will continue to lay in their own filth for too long. And have their medical records lost. And be given food,when It says NIL BY MOUTH. A wrong can not be made wright by excuses GWH IS too top heavy, with high paid pen pushers. GWH needs more fully trained nurses,and doctors And I dont mean AGENCY workers. I still say GWH Is the PITS,and you stand more chance of servival by self medication at home. Or even a medical tent In Bagdad. GOOD NIGHT.[/quote] I hear The Ridgeway does nice food maybe you should pitch your tent there!
BWB wrote:
mum of three wrote: I did a ten hour shift today on a very busy surgical ward and i did a great job,i am certain that no patients could look back and say that they did not recieve wonderful care. That is why it is so hard to read that people ar unhappy with care delivered at any hospital,because we do our best.
Unless we make complaints,you will continue to work ten hours a day. And like my wife they will continue to lay in their own filth for too long. And have their medical records lost. And be given food,when It says NIL BY MOUTH. A wrong can not be made wright by excuses GWH IS too top heavy, with high paid pen pushers. GWH needs more fully trained nurses,and doctors And I dont mean AGENCY workers. I still say GWH Is the PITS,and you stand more chance of servival by self medication at home. Or even a medical tent In Bagdad. GOOD NIGHT.
I hear The Ridgeway does nice food maybe you should pitch your tent there!
Posted by: BWB, SWINDON on 11:51pm Thu 20 Mar 08
[quote][bold]Hazzard[/bold] wrote:
Ummm as usual there will be 2 sides to this story, but staff being bound by confidentiality clauses will not be allowed to offer their side thereby making it very easy for difficult, ungrateful people desperate to get their faces in the local rag to exagerate.[/quote] Ho, You mean like the poor young mother who
died because she was given an Epidural In her arm Instead of her spine.
How ungratful to have that put In the local rag.
Only one side to that story. And they attempted to whitewash that but failed.
Hazzard wrote:
Ummm as usual there will be 2 sides to this story, but staff being bound by confidentiality clauses will not be allowed to offer their side thereby making it very easy for difficult, ungrateful people desperate to get their faces in the local rag to exagerate.
Ho, You mean like the poor young mother who
died because she was given an Epidural In her arm Instead of her spine.
How ungratful to have that put In the local rag.
Only one side to that story. And they attempted to whitewash that but failed.
Posted by: Captain Sensible, Near Swindon on 7:38am Fri 21 Mar 08
A mate if mine was in there last year for 3 or 4 days, the food wasn't fit for pigs, his wife eventually brought rations in from home. You'd have thought that with all the money they are receiving from ripping everbody off in parking fees that they might manage better than they do.
A mate if mine was in there last year for 3 or 4 days, the food wasn't fit for pigs, his wife eventually brought rations in from home. You'd have thought that with all the money they are receiving from ripping everbody off in parking fees that they might manage better than they do.
Posted by: suem, north swindon on 8:11am Fri 21 Mar 08
I have just returned from a second unexpected stay in GWH and I have nothing but praise. The staff, although busy, could see I was nervous and alone and went out of their way to reassure me and make me comfortable. Also, maybe I am easily pleased but I have never found the food inedible. I say "Keep up the good work"
I have just returned from a second unexpected stay in GWH and I have nothing but praise. The staff, although busy, could see I was nervous and alone and went out of their way to reassure me and make me comfortable. Also, maybe I am easily pleased but I have never found the food inedible. I say "Keep up the good work"
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 9:13am Fri 21 Mar 08
There will always be two sides to every story. I have now been waiting 3 months now for an appointment for ENT, the whole process is now into it's second year. All I need is a tear duct diversion, not a major event one would have thought, but have visited the eye clinic no less than 6 times so far, how costly is that, and each time I saw a different doctor, except for one occasion and none of them could agree on what to do. The one couldn't even remember he had seen me before, and he was the boss. The fact remains that money does not create efficiency, dedication, hard work and attention to detail does. That seems to be the core of these complaints.
There will always be two sides to every story. I have now been waiting 3 months now for an appointment for ENT, the whole process is now into it's second year. All I need is a tear duct diversion, not a major event one would have thought, but have visited the eye clinic no less than 6 times so far, how costly is that, and each time I saw a different doctor, except for one occasion and none of them could agree on what to do. The one couldn't even remember he had seen me before, and he was the boss. The fact remains that money does not create efficiency, dedication, hard work and attention to detail does. That seems to be the core of these complaints.
Posted by: BWB, SWINDON on 9:48am Fri 21 Mar 08
[bold]Robert.[/bold] Could It be you are from the wrong ethnic group?. They have no trouble at all In getting treatment.
I say It again.
This Country Is the A*s end of europe.
It can get no worse,
or can It.
Robert. Could It be you are from the wrong ethnic group?. They have no trouble at all In getting treatment.
I say It again.
This Country Is the A*s end of europe.
It can get no worse,
or can It.
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 10:03am Fri 21 Mar 08
BWB, trust me it will if the EU Constitution is ratified.
BWB, trust me it will if the EU Constitution is ratified.
Posted by: pippin12573, Swindon on 11:16am Fri 21 Mar 08
I am a 2nd year student nurse currently on placement at the GWH so am therefore the future generation of nurses. I fully understand the points raised by both staff and patients as I have had the pleasure of seeing it from both sides as a member of staff and as a patient in previous times. Before beginning to work there I would have had the same opinion as many of the patients/family members, however now my opinion as changed. We all work really hard and after an 8 hour shift I am physically and mentally exhausted. The NMC code of conduct is intended to support safe and effective practice, and is an important tool in safeguarding the health and wellbeing of the public for which we as nurses have to adher to. Unfortunately people are not always pleased with the care they receive but with staff shortages we do our best and I feel the main point that is missing here is the lack of communication that Mr & Mrs Large received and I'm only sure that if the situation had been explained to them they may well have understood but unfortunately it wasn't! The lesson that I have learnt is that in the future I will endevour to speak to the patient/family and inform them of the situation and hopefully this will help ease some of the barriers between patient and nurse.
I am a 2nd year student nurse currently on placement at the GWH so am therefore the future generation of nurses. I fully understand the points raised by both staff and patients as I have had the pleasure of seeing it from both sides as a member of staff and as a patient in previous times. Before beginning to work there I would have had the same opinion as many of the patients/family members, however now my opinion as changed. We all work really hard and after an 8 hour shift I am physically and mentally exhausted. The NMC code of conduct is intended to support safe and effective practice, and is an important tool in safeguarding the health and wellbeing of the public for which we as nurses have to adher to. Unfortunately people are not always pleased with the care they receive but with staff shortages we do our best and I feel the main point that is missing here is the lack of communication that Mr & Mrs Large received and I'm only sure that if the situation had been explained to them they may well have understood but unfortunately it wasn't! The lesson that I have learnt is that in the future I will endevour to speak to the patient/family and inform them of the situation and hopefully this will help ease some of the barriers between patient and nurse.
Posted by: Robert Feal-Martinez, Swindon on 11:38am Fri 21 Mar 08
pippin, thank you for your honest and candid post, but what concerns me is this comment, [bold]The lesson that I have learnt is that in the future I will endevour to speak to the patient/family and inform them of the situation[/bold] I would have thought that the most fundamental and essential element of good health care practice is communication. Both with patients and colleagues. I do not believe this can be taught it should be instinctive. However in the case outlined in this article, no one at a professional level seems to have understood the importance of the medication and then to compound the problem by stating the reason was a locked door, was not on crass but wholly unforgivable, one assumes someone would have a master key.
pippin, thank you for your honest and candid post, but what concerns me is this comment,
The lesson that I have learnt is that in the future I will endevour to speak to the patient/family and inform them of the situation I would have thought that the most fundamental and essential element of good health care practice is communication. Both with patients and colleagues. I do not believe this can be taught it should be instinctive. However in the case outlined in this article, no one at a professional level seems to have understood the importance of the medication and then to compound the problem by stating the reason was a locked door, was not on crass but wholly unforgivable, one assumes someone would have a master key.
Posted by: kanda, swindon on 3:40pm Mon 24 Mar 08
I was in GWH nearly 3 years ago with problems with my Galbladder, but where to begin with my experience? The thing is my parents are both doctors who worked their whole lives for the NHS and they were horrified by my treatment they couldn't believe the lack of care I was experiencing. I was discharged on a Thursday and told they had cured me and I could go home and eat anything I liked,they would see my in 3 months, despite I had not in 6 weeks (and in hospital had had morphine after eating dry toast!), they hadn't checked my bloods to see if they had returned to normal, they hadn't checked my stool sample, which would have shown them I had contracted C-difficile (which still causes me problems now!). I was too weak to look after my 2 young children, so my husband took me to my parents on the Friday, I was seen in their local hospital, where the doctor appologised that he couldn't opperate before Wednesday, unless it became urgent. Now I have travelled through to Oxford for treatment and I dread ever being seriously ill because I don't trust them! Sorry to go on, but it still makes me upset now!
I was in GWH nearly 3 years ago with problems with my Galbladder, but where to begin with my experience? The thing is my parents are both doctors who worked their whole lives for the NHS and they were horrified by my treatment they couldn't believe the lack of care I was experiencing. I was discharged on a Thursday and told they had cured me and I could go home and eat anything I liked,they would see my in 3 months, despite I had not in 6 weeks (and in hospital had had morphine after eating dry toast!), they hadn't checked my bloods to see if they had returned to normal, they hadn't checked my stool sample, which would have shown them I had contracted C-difficile (which still causes me problems now!). I was too weak to look after my 2 young children, so my husband took me to my parents on the Friday, I was seen in their local hospital, where the doctor appologised that he couldn't opperate before Wednesday, unless it became urgent. Now I have travelled through to Oxford for treatment and I dread ever being seriously ill because I don't trust them! Sorry to go on, but it still makes me upset now!
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